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Gaspard's avatar

Otherwise good essay, but Plato describes a better kind of city because, at the time, it was actually possible to found new cities, or to convince the tyrant of one to follow your ideas. He invents the genre of the utopia because he believed he could make something resembling it in the real world (the utopia resurfaces as a genre, in Italy, in the early 16th century, for a reason...). Read 'Laws', not Nietzsche's ordeal of civility with the philosophical tradition, if you want to know what Plato thought.

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Patrick D. Farley's avatar

Great essay and especially a great analysis on Freud. About 3/4 into it I got confused as to where all the talk of "faith, not logic" was suddenly coming from. Game theory is logical, I kept saying to myself, and under certain conditions civility is the game-theoretical optimal move. I think if you were not trying to force it to point to Christianity, you would agree that civility is a remarkable phenomenon and important step in human advancement, but is not like, metaphysically sacred

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